tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post4651360030386163994..comments2023-10-28T09:24:38.420+01:00Comments on iPhylo: Elsevier Grand ChallengeRoderic Pagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00269598293846172649noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-26903195238718227622008-09-30T08:22:00.000+01:002008-09-30T08:22:00.000+01:00Congratulations!and if the scare isn't big enough ...Congratulations!<BR/>and if the scare isn't big enough i jus realised that u are the only single member team in the list!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419554940694709908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-9892828746684905022008-09-10T11:00:00.000+01:002008-09-10T11:00:00.000+01:00Hi David and Roderic, I just wanted to clarify tha...Hi David and Roderic, I just wanted to clarify that semi-finalists can certainly develop with a 3rd party (or as you say, make their work available for free). Elsevier just retains the right to match another commercial offer (if they want to)and semi-finalists always have the right to refuse that offer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-31433080933543743382008-08-22T13:34:00.000+01:002008-08-22T13:34:00.000+01:00Cool, that was my question. By the way they've se...Cool, that was my question. By the way they've set up the contest, you're basically stuck either doing things exclusively with Elsevier or giving it away for free (assuming their lawyers don't stretch the definition of "commercial development"). As long as you were planning to go open source anyway, no harm, no foul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-51956792530551579142008-08-22T08:20:00.000+01:002008-08-22T08:20:00.000+01:00David,There's a slight feeling of dancing with the...David,<BR/><BR/>There's a slight feeling of dancing with the devil, but the important clause is:<BR/><BR/> "All participants retain ownership of any software they develop or any other intellectual property rights they create; these will not be used by Elsevier unless there is explicit agreement with the participants regarding this use."<BR/><BR/>If I develop software and make it available under, say, GPL, then nothing is lost. Part of what I'm trying to do is show that even if Elsevier doesn't make full text freely available, they could make their journals much more scientifically useful by publishing additional metadata (i.e., beyond the standard bibliographic details).Roderic Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269598293846172649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-76421553986868111232008-08-22T08:13:00.000+01:002008-08-22T08:13:00.000+01:00Hilmar,I hadn't seen the co-authorship networks in...Hilmar,<BR/><BR/>I hadn't seen the co-authorship networks in TreeTapper. I've been playing with networks that show the links between the coauthors rather than just the links between author and co-author (inspired in part by the <A HREF="http://www.visualcomplexity.com/vc/project_details.cfm?id=501&index=501&domain" REL="nofollow">Facebook Friend Wheel</A>). I think this gives additional insight into the sociology. For example, the <A HREF="http://iphylo.org/~rpage/demo1/uri/682744a868197367a6d113556527ee43" REL="nofollow">co-authorship graph for Mark Wilkinson</A> shows that Mark has published with two rather different clusters of people.Roderic Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269598293846172649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-62558755439808377732008-08-22T04:12:00.000+01:002008-08-22T04:12:00.000+01:00Just curious, but how do you feel about this:"Else...Just curious, but how do you feel about this:<BR/><BR/>"Elsevier shall be granted the right of first refusal for the exclusive commercial development of any finalist’s submissions. "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16081779.post-56513596035479454182008-08-22T01:10:00.000+01:002008-08-22T01:10:00.000+01:00Congratulations! I'm looking forward to the propos...Congratulations! I'm looking forward to the proposal appearing on Precedings. BTW as for citation networks, have you seen the co-authorship networks on TreeTapper? E.g., http://treetapper.nescent.org/person/216Drycafehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16035210916769593629noreply@blogger.com